May 2012
bampire replied to your post: Wow I need to get off my ass and pay for my…
do it and get it over with.
Wow I need to get off my ass and pay for my internet bill.
Someone do it for me.
withering-lilies replied to your post: frazzledniya replied to your post: I was just…
Yep, I’ve noticed this. If you are a girl then you draw shoujo, if you are a boy then you draw shounen *shrugs*. And lately it’s also, if you are a girl drawing romance then you are a disgrace to women who want to fight a male-oriented society.
What I legitimately don’t get about people in general is that they refuse to let you be if something offends their own views of the world. This is subconscious selfishness. Even comments like “I don’t usually like this kind of things, but…”, this is already selfish in itself since whatever the artist drew was not meant to please others BUT their own whims.
Yet people feel the need to complain about it over and over again.
No matter what you draw/do/say there will always be someone out there getting offended and proceeding to elaborate (or not, most of the times) why you’re fucking wrong and should die in a tornado of hell fire.
Guys want to draw romance? Go for it.
Gals want to draw guns? Go for it.
Guys want to draw action comics? Go for it.
Gals want to draw romance? Go for it.
In the end it’s all up to the individual, no one else. Individual is a word most people forget and it has a very valuable meaning; it doesn’t imply if someone is a female, it doesn’t imply if someone is a male. It’s an individual equipped with a brain, not an individual equipped with a penis or a vagina.
There are many, many women who draw shounen manga as there are men who draw shoujo manga. One of the greatest shounen mangas I’ve ever read was written and drawn by a woman… even though in Japanese society they need to stress out the gender so much, it was still acceptable because she did a pretty damn good job. 70% of mangas being published nowadays are drawn by women, by the way…
The terms shounen and shoujo are still used nowadays, but their connotation changed. Today it’s not so much about the shoujo = teen girls and shounen = teen boys, it’s more about the content of the manga.
I am not an expert in Western comics, I’m getting a Master’s in Manga so I’m pretty sure what I’ll say will be somewhat misinterpreted but, Japan has a lot of offer when it comes to what you want to pick and read, while in the Western Comic world the impression I get is that at least 75% of them are Male oriented. It is aimed at male readers, whatever the fuck those are. Even people who are completely unfamiliar with comics will get this feeling. “Oh you mean Superman and all those other super heroes with amazing powers and strength that fight off villains?”, will most likely be said to describe comics. That in itself implies “Male oriented shenanigans”.
Take a female Comic artist for example. If the general public knows she’s a woman she’ll automatically be the target of stereotypical bullshit. The comments will go from “Did you know the artist is a woman?” to “I don’t like this chapter because women can’t draw as good as men.” They fail to understand we don’t even draw with our vaginas.
The most recent event that I can remember was the circus fair at DC… you can take that as a factual example.
On the other hand when a woman is legitimately interested in romance she’ll be the target of a lot of unjust bullshit, like you mentioned. Sadly, it’ll also come from other women…
As women, we will feel like we will always be one step behind men because of all these stereotypes that were built over the years and somehow managed to not disappear completely.
So when I’m asked if I’m a boy or a girl, it just hits a nerve because it shouldn’t fucking matter unless you want to reproduce or something.
frazzledniya replied to your post: I was just asked if I was a chick or a dude. I’ve…
Why do people care if your are a girl, boy or other? o_O
My drawing style is very “confusing”, or so I was told. I draw both dudes and chicks, plus the themes of my pictures are usually what society associates with “males”.
Plus, if they know the gender of someone they subconsciously stereotype the drawing style and subject of the images (by this I mean, they are able to fit the drawing style into a category) which makes them somehow able to understand whatever it is they’re looking at. Thus making them comfortable with themselves.
If I say I’m a girl, I’ll get comments like “You’re a chick and you draw male oriented things?” or if I say I’m a dude they’ll say “You’re a guy and you draw really gay shit.” So to avoid this I’ve never once revealed my gender on D.A, despite my profile picture (but again, could be a dude, you never know).
I don’t give a fuck about the gender of a person personally, it’s good artwork that counts. But trying to make a Portuguese kid realise this is useless.
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deadgoliath replied to your post: I was just asked if I was a chick or a dude. I’ve…
or a ????? dick????????????
deadgoliath replied to your post: I was just asked if I was a chick or a dude. I’ve…
get it
deadgoliath replied to your post: I was just asked if I was a chick or a dude. I’ve…
ur a chude
Hahaha DICK.
Gogo-chan you’re so kawaii. <3
I was just asked if I was a chick or a dude.
I’ve been hiding my gender on D.A since I’ve created my account 9 years ago, this is legit the hardest question I’ve ever been asked omg.
Kids. oTL;
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YEAH TRAIN FUCK YOU AND YOUR LIES BITCH i can’t even i’m laughing so hard
exploding orgy of gender anarchy: On Shipping and Fanboys
This is my letter to angry fanboys.
First, let it be known that I love most fanboys. When I go to a con, most of the guys there are respectful. They share a passion with me, and that’s awesome. We’re all on a rock floating through space with little connection to most of the people who surround us, so anything that allows us to bond is fantastic.
What I don’t love are angry fanboys (I wish there were a different word for them). I don’t love being scoffed at when I jump excitedly at finding a comic. I don’t love being told that, if I didn’t like something, it’s because it wasn’t “meant for chicks.” I don’t love the notion that I’m not a real fan because I have two X chromosomes and like to look at the Avengers cast. And I sure as hell don’t love my online interests (particularly shipping) being looked down on by the people who do this:
(Comment on a negative Rotten Tomatoes review of The Avengers.)
(Message in my inbox. Way to be an anonymous coward.)
(Comment on the the SHH boards.)
That last one’s fairly tame. It followed a (now deleted) comment that went something to the effect of this: “Tumblr is sick. I can’t even browse the Avengers tag because of all the fangirls posting porn.”
Well, you know what? I’m not sorry.
I’m not sorry my enjoyment of fandom is different from yours.
Maybe my time would be better spent bitching at reviewers and complaining that Black Widow made it to film before Ant-Man. But that’s not what I choose to do. I choose to draw. I choose to write fanfic. I choose to share podcasts and make comic book recommendations. I choose to be positive (when I’m not pissed of at people like you anyway).
I’m not sorry you sometimes stumble upon sexualized male characters.
You know why? Because of this:
(Zatanna’s new “costume”)
And this:
(Starfire)
And this:
(Heroes for Hire #13)
And, finally, this:
(Thor, Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, Hawkeye, and TITS AND ASS!)
You get to ogle comic book characters constantly. You get to ogle movie characters constantly. And you know what? While I have a problem with the double standard in comics, that is your right. Women are sexy.
But if I want to put Iron Man and Captain America on the cover of The Notebook or pose them like Cyclops and Jean Grey, I’m going to do it. And I think I have the right to without being thought of as some sort of freak.
(Shameless self-promotion.)
How is the way I enjoy my hobby less healthy than the way you enjoy yours? How am I the one who’s inappropriate? I think it’s because I sexualize male characters instead of female ones.
I’m not sorry that makes you uncomfortable.
(“Leave the Avengers aloooonnneeeee!”)
(Wasp would never say this.)
I’m not sorry you’re a homophobe.
Actually, I kind of am. Exploring alternate sexual orientations isn’t “defamation of character.” It’s 2012, for crying out loud. I’m not a lesbian (or curious for that matter) but I can appreciate the Spider-Woman/Ms.Marvel pairing and the occasional Pepper/Natasha fic. The world of internet fandom has a lot to offer you if you let it.
I’m not sorry for shipping.
Shipping is glorious. I ship because it’s nice to think that these epic heroes have equally epic romances. Some of the fanfic out there is better written than a lot of comic books. Some of the fanart is better than real comic book art (looking at you, Rob Liefeld). Some of the things I ship are canon (Spider-Man/MJ). Others aren’t.
(Not canon.)
There’s a misconception that fangirls are only interested in male/male pairings. Some of them are, and who cares? That’s their right. But the assumption just isn’t true. There’s a reason Natasha/Clint is popular among movie fans. There’s a reason Tony/Pepper is popular. Those characters have boatloads of chemistry.
Then again, so do Loki/Thor, Tony/Bruce, and Tony/Steve. Don’t want ladies to overwhelmingly ship male characters together? Make a movie with more than one female lead. We can’t help it that The Avengers is a sausage party.
We are going to ship. We are going to ship loudly and proudly and there’s nothing you can do about it. I suggest you stop complaining and jump on the bandwagon. You might be surprised at how much you enjoy fangirls when you get to know us. We have a sense of humor. We have a sense of fun. We just happen to also have a strong sense of romance and a thing for attractive men.
So sue us.
*STANDING OVATION*
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So much this
Oh, I’m sorry, are people sexualizing your gender and then putting it on the internet in a way that makes you uncomfortable? Welcome to every single day for women.
^^
i like it when the boys kiss
I can’t be the only one.
So me and Cris just appeared in a Japanese blog about fashion.
We went to visit this awesome second-hand store called BLONDIE in Sannomiya, and the girl who worked there asked if she could take us a picture.
It was quite amazing.
AHHHHH THE UNIQLO METAL GEAR SHIRT…
YES. YES EXACTLY.
THAT IS LEGITIMATELY THE BEST SHIRT IN THE SET, TOO
So me and Cris just appeared in a Japanese blog about fashion.
We went to visit this awesome second-hand store called BLONDIE in Sannomiya, and the girl who worked there asked if she could take us a picture.
It was quite amazing.
AHHHHH THE UNIQLO METAL GEAR SHIRT…
YES. YES EXACTLY.
